30G

i want to get one last tank and its between some fire bellied newts or snakes or another reptile. is there any snakes that can live its hole life in a tanks about 30g? and is there any specially things they would need? and what temp and bits?
thanks

Turning to the dark side eh

30g....whats that? About a 3ft tank?

A 3ft tank is capable of holding an adult corn snake or Royal Python, but there are some considerations you need to address. The Hood......for a snake it needs to be ultra secure, no gaps at all, but will need to have ventilation. Thats really your only problem

Heating for a snake can be a heatmat under the tank, and glass is a good conductor of heat.

Other reptile options could be Leopard geckos, of which you could have 3/4 females. Or Sand geckos.....very small and communal so could have a proper little colony.

There you go Kizno! A Royal Python!

Turning to the dark side eh
haha

yh 30g is about 3 foot. im still not sure what size it will be because im still looking for a tank but wont one about that size.
i quite like both the snakes and the sand gekos. what sort of foods are they going to need? i guess live foods like crickets and things? and will they need all the vitimin things like your crested gekos do?

SheenaShoup wrote:There you go Kizno! A Royal Python!

they are nice anit they i like the corn snakes aswell though.

does this one look any good the lid looke secure and i could make a lid to go over the top of it. and could proberly make a stand for it quite easily because it would be filled with water so wouldnt need to be able to suport asmuch weight.
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That tank would be fine but if you decide on a snake then you'll have to find a way of making the top more secure

These are a couple of Stenos (sand geckos) that I used to keep. Very cute but more for display than regular handling. These are fully grown so don't get very big.







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yh thats what i was meaning about making another lid to go over that one because it looks like it would come of quite easy. them sand gekos look amazing bet there hard to spot in the tank though.

They're not too bad to see. They come out at night so I had a red bulb so that I could view them without disturbing them too much. You can have quite large colonies with more than one male and sometimes you can hear them chirping to each other.

They like to dig too and by making the sand damp at one end they can burrow easily without the tunnels collapsing.

Wow I love stenos, could never find them for sale locally. How about leopard geckos, african fat tail geckos, baby ackie?

Those are really cute!

I like the one one your hand third picture, he looks so wiggly and cute!

Just one thing.....if you want something you can handle Stenos are not the best. Leos are easy to handle though. An Ackie wouldn't last long before it outgrows that tank.

Helmeted geckos are really cute too

well my mums being harsh and has said no snakes. shes a caution freak and is scared for to reasons one because she said they have salmonella on them and 2 because shes scared my bros might get bit so my reply was they shouldnt be in my room then and im sure if it happence once they wont to it again and then she got in a mood with me. its a pain aswell because i was speaking to a mate and he said his bro has a 4 foot vivarium with heat mat light bulbs and heat bulbs for sale and he has a 2 foot corn snake that hes thinking about selling aswell. they have some 20cm corn snakes at my lfs aswell but she wont let me.

so looke like its a gecko then. how many of the sand or leopard geckos do you think would fit in the tank? and what sexes?
and what foods would i need? crickets and things like that?
thanks :]

Typical Mums eh

In a 3ft tank you could have a colony of 12 Stenos (sand geckos) is easily attainable You can have more than one male aswell. The only possible problem is sourcing them. They need small crickets, small roaches or flightless fruit flies.

With Leos you could have 3 or 4 females. Best not to have a male unless you want eggs lol. Leos will eat mealworms, crickets and/or locusts.

Both will need heating and calcium suppliments.

yh i know ill keep trying to get a snake though lol
12 really. would you say 3 male 9 females would work? can you breed any of the things they eat reather than having to buy them all? ill have to see how much the crickets and meal worms cost because you can get them in jollys in town.
can you just buy calcium stuff in lfs that you put them in?
sorry for all the quiestions but i really dont have a clue.

o yh one last question whats a good price to pay fo them?

You should be able to pick up normal leos for about £20 each, however there are bargains to be had:) Breeder shows are a good place....here's a link to a thread about meetings - Rep Shows

Stenos will be slightly cheaper but harder to get hold of.

hopefully if im buying 12 though i might get them a little cheaper.
would you say 3 male 9 females would work? can you breed any of the things they eat reather than having to buy them all? ill have to see how much the crickets and meal worms cost because you can get them in jollys in town.
can you just buy calcium stuff in lfs that you put them in?
sorry for all the quiestions but i really dont have a clue.

i had a look round that site thanks :] i desided to join see what i can find on there aswell. thanks for all the help :]

well my mum said she will consider the snakes now she said still proberly not but ill get one in the end lol. what would be a good price for a small corn snake or python? i really like the albino pythons are they alot more?

haha....good work

Yep an Albino Royal is going to be around £500 - £600

A normal Royal would be anything from £50 up. There's some nice pictures of different morphs here - Royal Morphs

A hatchling corn from a breeder would be £20 upwards, but expect to pay £50 for a normal from a shop. Here's a link to the different colours you can get - Corn Snake Morphs

wow £500 thats a shame i really like them. some of the royal pythons are nice i think i like them a little more than the corns but i like both but it would also be cool to have 12 of the sand geckos. yh i was looking at all the diffrent morphs just a shame about the albinos. ill have to see how much the corn snakes are at one of my lfs they where only about 20cm. what would you feed on that small?

A baby cornsnake would eat a pinky which is a newborn baby mouse. Usually one every 4 to 5 days.