the age old - boy or girl??

by **Haych** Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 22:59

right, got this guy/gal from a member on here with a group of six other girls.

Now, when I first saw him/her I thought, thats a boy, but then I saw a definate Ovi thingy-ma-jig. Left him/her in the sorority.

Watching TV and noticed him/her flaring LOTS at another female, SEEMED to have a full beard, but wont flare for me now!

I have put him/her in his/her own section, girls colours have come up now s/he has been removed. Strangely enough, the one I removed is the only one without any tears in fins :unsure:

any help appreciated!

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by **Wilsonnw8** Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 23:18

Its male, a young male VT In my opinion although I can kind of see an ovi I would still say boy

by **Haych** Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 23:23

thats what i thought lol

i just hope none of the others turns into boys! there is another one that looks similar but more torn up.

thank you for confirming what i thought. gotta find a spot for him now!! banghead

by **Wilsonnw8** Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 23:31

do you have pictures of the other suspect?

by **Haych** Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 23:38

will get pics of each one, if you wouldnt mind checking them over for me? Embarassed

by **Wilsonnw8** Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 23:41

yeah no problem Smile

by **liz2** Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 23:49

You see I would have deffo said a girl cos of fat tum and short front fin things....dunno (tee hee thats a very untechnical definition of body finnage and me with a certificate)

by **Wilsonnw8** Tue 22 Dec 2009 - 23:57

I would normally say female but the venticals are long and the excess flaring and seeming full beard makes me suspicious and the caudal fin is long in some of those pics, I didnt ask though how old is he/she?

by **Haych** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 0:10

lol oh dear, dont confuse me anymore crying

i have no clue on age at all.

i thought girls were thinner and males had fatter bellies?

right... i think i am missing some pics of girls... theyre hard to tell apart,without literally seperating them and photoing, so if you could give me a general idea, i can get somewhere!

(some are of the same fish more than once)

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by **Haych** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 0:13

i dont know if a link to my photobucket would help more, the pics have been adjusted on PB so theyre much smaller than the actual photo

by **Netty** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 1:44

That's a really difficult one....cheers Haych lol!

The thing is that females can also put on quite a display of flaring at times, the only thing missing is the bit under the chin which a male would have.

Some of the pics look like there might be an egg casing but others not.

There's definately something going on though for all the others to have such badly nipped fins. It's just a case of finding the culprit which can take a while. One way of checking would be to put him/her into a clear floating breeding trap in a males tank and see how they interact and whether breeding stripes appear. I've done this before where the female dropped eggs within 48 hours but it doesn't always happen so quickly.

by **Wilsonnw8** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 9:52

The yellow girl is definately female is the red fish in your second batch of pictures the same one? first and second i would say female as well Id be suspicious of the red one right now but as netty said you could try the trap idea!

by **Haych** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 11:11

ok thanks guys, i had better find a clear trap then! Williow, the second batch is a new red one, there is something like 3 blue, 2 red, 1 gold, 1 purpleish.

i put him/her back in the group, and s/he is definately the one causing trouble as s/he is the only one without any nips !

i THINK its a female. when s/he falred (as soon as i put him/her back in) it SEEMED to be a loveheart shape rather than circular

will keep you updated!

by **xphat_fishx** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 16:47

Did you get new female bettas? for your tank? I saw your divided tank on another thread.

by **Haych** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 18:54

i did.

Liam who lives close said he needed to break down his betta tanks so asked if i wanted them

by **Vandraco aka Bronzecat** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 19:13

Ohhhh, so its Liams fault LOL

by **Haych** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 19:23

by **Wilsonnw8** Wed 23 Dec 2009 - 19:26

Van is just winding you up and having a joke ! its no one's fault its just one of those things you may just have a very aggressive female on your hands, we're actually finding due to breeding sometimes the male/female differentials are becoming harder and harder to negotiate!

by **OrcaDreamer** Wed 17 Feb 2010 - 1:00

those are beautifull bettas but does their fins look small ??? look like a fin rot to me

by **silverrabbit** Wed 17 Feb 2010 - 1:19

^ Girls have much smaller fins OrcaDreamer Smile

that one just looks a little nipped is all IMO

by **Vandraco aka Bronzecat** Wed 17 Feb 2010 - 1:34

Yeh, its a result of either aggressive females or rogue short-finned males.

by **OrcaDreamer** Wed 17 Feb 2010 - 2:15

silverrabbit wrote:^ Girls have much smaller fins OrcaDreamer [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] that one just looks a little nipped is all IMO

Okii [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] it almost gave me a heart attack because I hate when a betta is sick.I feel better now

by **Haych** Wed 17 Feb 2010 - 19:41

yeah everyone is much better now Very Happy

I had a bully girl who was rehomed (alone) in my sisters community tank Very Happy

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