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Post by Lairewen Sun 30 May 2010 - 2:12

About 3 weeks ago I got three females for my 30L tank. All was fine at first, but then the bullying started. I've noticed that the bully acts differently to the others and I've started to wonder if I have, in fact, got a male here. Help please?

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Post by damo2904 Sun 30 May 2010 - 11:37

Hmmmm...quite a long body, ideally a pic of it flaring would be good help. Can you see the White ovipositer (if so it's a good sign prob female) & does it have the extra, in this case dark flap when flaring? From here it looks like it may do. (in which case would mean male).

Am not 100%, someone may comment better, but if u can catch it flaring that would help, but I think it's likely that's a male PK. But I maybe wrong.

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Post by liz2 Sun 30 May 2010 - 13:42

yes thats the best put a mirror next to it and if the frill when it flares goes all the way round its little face it s a boy!
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Post by Haych Sun 30 May 2010 - 16:58

looks female to me - too skinny for a male (unless I have it backwards!)
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Post by silverrabbit Sun 30 May 2010 - 21:49

From looking at my girls mine are all chubbier around the belly, esp when viewed from the top (eggs I suppose). This one also seems to have quite long ventrals for a girl, but maybe it's just long finned.

I think boy, but I get it wrong all the time lol!

3 will most probably fight anyway, it's not agreat number, especially in 30l, unless you make it into a nice jungle Smile
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Sun 30 May 2010 - 23:05

I would say that might be a young male VT, normally we find people come across young male Plakats, but young male Vt's sometimes slip in, can you see a white spot an ovi? and is his/her beard full? as the others asked?
Im thinking if you are noticing overt agression and you cant see an Ovi at all this may be a male veil tail
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Post by Haych Sun 30 May 2010 - 23:24

ooohhhh of course - Pete started out like that - and he had the ovi for ages.

never crossed my mind he could be a VT
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Post by Taelin Sun 30 May 2010 - 23:34

My son's 'red boy' started out looking like that, complete with ovi spot, but after over a year, suddenly developed long fins and turned into a damned beautiful VT male. I would separate this one just to be safe, Tux. :D
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Post by Lairewen Mon 31 May 2010 - 15:39

Thanks all. I'm still not sure, I can't *see* an oviposter, but it's hard to get a good look. I've seperated them... one has gone into my community tank and looks dreadful, but is still eating and swimming. The other is in a 5L tub and tbh I don't give much for her chances. Sad She was stuck to the filter when I found her this morning. I could cry.

Tae, I *will* catch you on YIM soon! I hate time zones!
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Post by Taelin Mon 31 May 2010 - 15:40

I'm on right now! :P
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Post by silverrabbit Tue 1 Jun 2010 - 0:24

Sorry the girls aren't looking good Sad
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Post by Newfishy Tue 1 Jun 2010 - 17:16

just three is never a good number, just not enough to spread out the aggresion. the above fish looks suspishishly long and lean with no sign of a egg belly. many many male vts start out just like that.
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Post by Lairewen Mon 7 Jun 2010 - 3:42

I lost Vaire, the girl in the tub. Sad I am cautiously optimistic about Vana, the girl I dumped unceremoniously into my community tank. Her fins are still ragged, but she's active, eating and has regained some colour. I've also discovered that she's a friendly little thing and always swins up to say hello! I hope she makes it, I've become very attached!
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Post by silverrabbit Mon 7 Jun 2010 - 21:55

RIP Vaire, i'm sorry hun
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