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Post by Storm Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 9:26

Ive added floating plants and a cup, and still no bubble nest and i dont no why. Is he unhappy with bloodworm twice a day, or is it because he is red Rolling Eyes . When ever i have had a red male betta they have always been lazy. Any ideas temp 29c.

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Post by Wilsonnw8 Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 9:59

No its not because he's red. Infact typically red males are more aggressive, blood worm twice a day however is way to much bloodworm, its very fatty and should be fed as a treat once a week twice a week max really. Otherwise he runs the risk of becoming constipated.
If his tank is heated and his water stats are fine he might just not be the bubbling type, some betta males never bubble until breeding time (My Zen doesnt bubble at all) other betta's make huge nests!
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 10:00

Oh also Storm, if you have a fairly fast filter flow it will destroy bubbles or he might not bother - knowing his nest will not stick
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Post by Storm Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 10:17

:shock: drops to the floor about blood worm :shock: . right mr flake diet from now on. the filter may be a tad fast, but wont the cup protect it.

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Post by Storm Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 18:36

Well ive had the water tested and its ok.

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Post by Wilsonnw8 Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 18:46

A better food for his is atisons betta food or hikari betta pro, if those are two expensive tetra do a small pellet food
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Post by Storm Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 18:49

Thanks for the info tilly, hes just a lazy red betta lol

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Post by Wilsonnw8 Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 18:57

Thats ok he must just be lazy! haha but Im sure there' s nothing wrong with him
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Post by Vandraco aka Bronzecat Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 20:07

I know you said you had the water tested, was that at your lfs? If so, make them write down the results for you. Better still, get a test kit and then you know for sure:)
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Post by Storm Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 22:03

the lfs done it, and the ph was a tad high he said. Would that effect it.

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Post by Newfishy Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 22:06

I have found that my higher ph makes bubblenests not last as long. when I breed I use a ial and that helps a bunch.
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Post by Vandraco aka Bronzecat Tue 16 Jun 2009 - 23:09

Storm wrote:the lfs done it, and the ph was a tad high he said. Would that effect it.

A tad high could mean anything, thats why you need to get them to write it down. Without the actual results its impossible to gauge anything:)
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Post by Lexi69 Wed 17 Jun 2009 - 0:40

Is there really a problem with him not making nests?? If I remember rightly he is a VT so you dont really want to breed him adn as long as he is healthy and active the bubbles nests mean nothing! being red would have nothing to do with him not building a nest however he may be feeling abit fat and sluggish from all the bloodworms!! sunny
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Post by Storm Wed 17 Jun 2009 - 9:09

Whats wrong with breeding vt lol there just as nice as the rest pmsl.

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Post by Lexi69 Wed 17 Jun 2009 - 12:30

Storm wrote:Whats wrong with breeding vt lol there just as nice as the rest pmsl.

There are already 2 many VT's sitting in nasty little tanks in LFS there is no point breeding any more as you wouldn't be able to sell them people aren't going to pay shipping for a VT they can get at there LFS and if you do sell them it would be 2 an LFS where they would just sit in nasty little tanks!!! so why breed a VT! irresponsible IMHO! sunny
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Wed 17 Jun 2009 - 12:37

Well come on now, I think you can breed VT's as long as they are unusual enough, there is a great demand for bright orange VT's , a fair demand for the Dalmatian type and I sold a few dragon VT's with not too much of a problem.

They key is breed something unusual or something thats in demand, Lexi is right the basic colours that are found at the LFS are usually - in my experience - given away to the store for free with their order so you have no chance selling them to a LFS for more than 20p a head and you cannot shift them BUT unusual VT's can be in demand, its simply your basic VT with basic colours (pink,red,blue,green) that isnt.

As with ANY tail type you must think of the end first, think of who your selling to and then breed the fish that matches what they want.
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Post by Storm Wed 17 Jun 2009 - 22:50

im not even breeding them, im just saying whats wrong with vt lmao

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Post by Lexi69 Wed 17 Jun 2009 - 23:43

Storm wrote:im not even breeding them, im just saying whats wrong with vt lmao

I was under the impression you wanted to from one of your previous threads!! I'm only looking out for the welfare of future/present fish, I dont personally any VT's other than unusual specimens as Tilly mentioned should EVER be bred as the are ten a penny!! sunny

(dont want to offend anyone its just my opinion!) sunny
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Post by Storm Thu 18 Jun 2009 - 5:44

lol its fine i happen to love the V tail, i dont know why.

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Post by Wilsonnw8 Thu 18 Jun 2009 - 9:18

I like some of them too Storm but must agree with Lexi, if you ever did want to breed bettas, VT 's would prove extremely difficult even to give away
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Post by Storm Thu 18 Jun 2009 - 15:45

I know but, there all getting along ok in the community Smile

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Post by Lexi69 Thu 18 Jun 2009 - 19:09

Storm wrote:I know but, there all getting along ok in the community Smile

Thats ok as long as they dont breed again because if the babies dont get eaten you will be overrun with VTs! :lol!: sunny
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Post by Storm Thu 18 Jun 2009 - 19:12

the male is now in a seprate bit of the tank, so it wont happen. Females still together though.

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Post by Turtle Thu 18 Jun 2009 - 20:56

Poor old VT's always get a hard time and bad press,,
They deserve as much credit as any other tail type,,
I think the IBC are partly responsible for the way they are viewed,,
The IBC are working on a new show standard for VT's,
Breeders are still working show quality lines

Love them or hate them !

There not a thing of the past just yet,,
Which I think is a good thing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by Netty Thu 18 Jun 2009 - 21:02

I think VTs are great too but at the moment as has been said, there is no market for selling them because people aren't going to pay postage for a fish they can pick up in their lfs for £3 or £4.

Unless of course they are a completely different and unusual colour type and to get this would take quite a few spawns to get the desired result and in the meantime what happens to all the babies you raise to get to that point!!

We have been lucky enough to have had 3 beautiful VTs in the past who had stunning colours :Love:
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