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Post by Wilsonnw8 Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 18:36

Ok I love snakes and seeing this by my pond was exciting ... until I noticed I was missing a fish, I am thinking I may have to sell my fish (my koi) as a consequence of this beautiful chap...and his rather large girlfriend 2 grass snakes = no japanese koi

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Post by Irish_Lass Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 18:40

Gorgeous lad but shame that you'll have to get rid of your Koi because of him. Is there a possibility that he was just moving through?
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 18:47

No sadly not, he has a mate with him, and she is double his size in girth they are obviously nesting in my reed bed *sigh*
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Post by Irish_Lass Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 18:57

So you'll be having babies?!?! I want photos of that!

I assume netting is something that wouldn't deter them? Its probably a stupid question. Sorry. Smile

We don't have the problem of snakes in Ireland. Wink
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 18:59

netting the snakes? no most likely thing is that they will just come back and they are a protected species so I cant really move a breeding pair
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Post by Irish_Lass Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 19:09

Sorry, I meant putting some sort of net over your pond.
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Sun 25 Apr 2010 - 20:11

oh I see, yeah there is already netting all around it they are just difficult to shift but thats a good idea, Im putting my smaller koi in a quarenteen tomorrow to see how big they are out the water and if they would fit in a snakes mouth! lol I'll get pictures tomorrow
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Post by Vandraco aka Bronzecat Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 2:17

What size were the Koi? A snake can eat prey approx one and a half times the width of its body. So if the snake is an inch and a half wide, it could easily take a fish of two and a half inches wide. A grass snakes main diet is frogs, toads and birds. Will take small fish if their main prey is scarce.
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 9:34

well thats the male snake the female is a lot bigger she must double his girth , the smaller koi are about 6 inches long the largest is pushing 20 I doubt they will take the large koi but the smaller one's im a bit dubious as they have cleaned us out of toads
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Post by Haych Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 9:36

oooh pretty!

you can ask the rspca to move them for you
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Post by Guest Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 12:42

Oh wow I have never seen a grass snake before. Shame about the Koi though:( I want a snake to make his home in my garden lol

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Post by Vandraco aka Bronzecat Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 13:22

mellychops wrote: I want a snake to make his home in my garden lol

Ummmm......you're cats would kill it Sad
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 14:34

Ive just moved the two smaller koi into a 6ft tank I had, all the larger koi are fine as they are too big to be eaten but the smaller dudes had to be removed they seem to be ok though just a bit moody
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Post by Guest Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 15:05

Vandraco aka Bronzecat wrote:
mellychops wrote: I want a snake to make his home in my garden lol

Ummmm......you're cats would kill it Sad

Very true Sad I rescued a mouse they had the other day:(

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Post by Wilsonnw8 Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 17:35

hehe Im not sure a cat could take these...the female is 1.5 m long.... here are my unimpressed koi:
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Post by Irish_Lass Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 18:46

Jesus, that's big fish! Shocked
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 19:02

haha those are the small ones... they are about 7-10 inches my big girl is about 25 inches
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Post by Irish_Lass Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 19:06

Shocked Good God.
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Post by kizno1 Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 19:13

nice snakes and kois. 20lb is big for a koi the bigest ive ever seen/caught is 15lb and that was about 2 foot.
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Post by Wilsonnw8 Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 19:18

oh she's 25 inches (last measure) , not 25 pounds but thank you Smile she is now too big for the biggest koi net (pet koi havent tried a landing net variety but might have to if I want to move her)
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Post by kizno1 Mon 26 Apr 2010 - 19:30

still 25" is still big. you should be able to find a landing net for that easy you can get them over 4 foot long for catfis. i caught that one at this lake someone dumped a a few in there and the owned didnt relise untill they got big and spawned and he never bothered to take them out because they have done no harm so i catch them sometimes when fishing.
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Post by silverrabbit Fri 30 Apr 2010 - 14:49

Wow that snake is pretty! That's so cool to have them in your garden Very Happy
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