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Post by Nataliey Sun 3 Oct 2010 - 23:18

...a female flaring and a male flaring??

Iv been looking for photos to compare the difference and only been able to find male betta pictures flaring.

Am i right in thinking a female when flaring only flares with her cheeks and a male flares with his cheeks and an extra round beard underneath?

I only ask as i have 2 white female bettas which have been at one anothers throats (so to speak!) and when watching them last night in a big squobble one flared at the other many times but i then noticed not only was she flaring with her cheeks but she has a clear beard which comes out from underneath her cheeks...she's still very small so cant see properly but im keeping an eye on her!

She was very aggressive towards the other white female and bit the other female right in the mouth...but typical female flaring of fins/tail and the stand off.
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Post by kizno1 Sun 3 Oct 2010 - 23:22

Yeah males will have the beard underneath where as females only flare af the sides of there gills although i think they can sometimes have a tiny beard but not sure.
Sounds like a male then. Do you have a pic? If its got a clear beard and is being very aggressive i would say male.
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Post by silverrabbit Mon 4 Oct 2010 - 0:19

Sounds like a male to me, maybe separate into a breeding net and see if he/she nests? With the extra beardy bit it does sound male though
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Post by liz2 Mon 4 Oct 2010 - 18:58

ha ha deffo sounds like a little boy......
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Post by Netty Mon 4 Oct 2010 - 20:12

Be warned though that some females can build nests as good as males.

This was one we bred and who I thought was male after finding this. Then 3 weeks later she started dropping eggs Shocked

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Post by Luimeril Mon 4 Oct 2010 - 20:30

cute bubble nest!

yeah, females only flare the cheeks, while males have the beard under their head. my CT girl builds a cute little nest on the side of her tank, so bubble nesting isn't a good way. i'd say look for an egg spot, but you said they're white! lol
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Post by silverrabbit Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 12:23

Even the egg spot isn't accurate! Haha Netty bless, that's one happy girl there then Very Happy
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Post by Nataliey Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 12:40

silverrabbit wrote:Even the egg spot isn't accurate! Haha Netty bless, that's one happy girl there then Very Happy

Definately agree with you silver cant go by egg spot either as one of my males has what looks like an egg spot.

The 'naughty bullying boy' hasnt bullied the poor little white boy and i havent seen any squobbles since maybe they know im keeping an eye on them,lol! cyclops

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Post by Mesatalia Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 13:27

Hahaha....pick a second betta and try breeding conditioning and see if your betta acts more like a male or female, if it gets VERY eggy or flares and nests. Even though both ways are inaccurate, I think when it comes down to breeding conditions it should be easy to tell.
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Post by Nataliey Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 16:08

The betta is still very small and looks quite young as does the other white female so going to wait and see!
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Post by Nataliey Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:21

Managed to get some blurry photos of the white female thats picking on the other females in the tank,the betta is really quite small so been unable to get a front view photo.

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Can you see the clear beard bit underneath?
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Well what do you all think? I just dont know!
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Post by kizno1 Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:27

Looks like a young male to me. I would septate it as soon as you can before it does any damage.
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Post by Nataliey Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:31

I dont half pick them eh!!! lol!
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Post by kizno1 Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:35

Haha. At least you will have a good choose of males if you do try breeding.
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Post by Nataliey Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:39

Haha well now you mention breeding i bought a new tank on Monday just for that reason...only trying when i get back from my hols in Ireland.

Well if he does turn out to be a boy iv got my white boy iv always wanted and a white girl! Rolling Eyes
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Post by liz2 Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:39

ooohhh beautiful little boy there....
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Post by kizno1 Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:41

Nataliey wrote:Haha well now you mention breeding i bought a new tank on Monday just for that reason...only trying when i get back from my hols in Ireland.

Well if he does turn out to be a boy iv got my white boy iv always wanted and a white girl! Rolling Eyes
Sounds great. How big is it?
I thought you got 3 white girls? Isnt that one in the 3rd pic?
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Post by Nataliey Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:47

No iv got 2 solid whites and a white with cellophane/pearly finnage.

I also have a feathertail female white with dark purple trim on tail.
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Post by kizno1 Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:48

Nataliey wrote:No iv got 2 solid whites and a white with cellophane/pearly finnage.

I also have a feathertail female white with dark purple trim on tail.
Oh fair enough i get confused which ones you have now haha.
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Post by Nataliey Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:53

The new tank is a Clearseal tank measuring 60cm long and 20cm wide & high
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Post by kizno1 Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 22:59

Thats a great shape for a spawning tank not to deep so you dont loose loads of water volume when you only fill it to 6". Thats the great thing about clear seal tanks.
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Post by Nataliey Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 23:09

The only thing i dont like about clear seal tanks is that they dont come with a proper hood and light, just the rubbish plastic lid...probably what makes them so cheap!
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Post by kizno1 Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 23:16

Exactly. although because of the little glass bits on the in side (not sure what there called) there easy to make lids for. All i did for a old 24x12x12" one i had was get to bits of wood half the width of the inside hinged them together and fitted a light to the back panel and a handle to the front panel so you just light the front up to do anything.
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Post by 2tall Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 3:03

That looks like a great tank to me! Breed, breed and breed....!
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