keyhole or bolovian ram with female betta

by **kizno1** Wed 11 Nov 2009 - 18:19

do you think i could add a single bolovian ram or keyhole with female bettas. ive seen mixed reports on keeping them together and was just wondering if anyone had any experiance keeping the 2 toghether.

by **mrpippoodle** Wed 11 Nov 2009 - 19:12

i would go for the bolivian only knowing that when sarah tried the keyhole we had to remove it within an hour due to agression issues from both the betta and the keyhole .
We have a pair of bolivian rams living in the 300 litre juwel tank with the group of female bettas very happily and been in there since October last year .
They were in there before the bettas though if that makes any difference

Chris

by **kizno1** Wed 11 Nov 2009 - 19:18

thanks i was going to take the females out rearange the tank and add them all in together. so ill get a ram then or i might get a male apistogramma viejita duno ill wait and see what my lfs can order in
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by **kizno1** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 14:43

has anyone ever heard bolivian ram being called dutch rams? because i went to my lfs and they had what they said where bolivian ram but they looked to bright so i think they were german blue rams but they said they do get duller rams in but they are called dutch rams.

by **Vandraco aka Bronzecat** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 15:15

Hi
This is what i understand about the Ram family -

Mikrogeophagus altispinosus = Bolivian Ram

Mikrogeophagus ramirezi = Butterfly Cichlid, German Ram, Blue Ram, German Blue Ram, Dutch Ram

So in effect, Mikrogeophagus ramirezi refers to everything except Bolivians.

by **kizno1** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 15:26

well the oce there selling a bolivians im sure are german blue rams ill get them to order in the dutch rams and see if there the bolivians because he said there alot duller so they might jsut of mixed them up.

by **Vandraco aka Bronzecat** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 16:10

I think Bolivians are slightly duller yeh.

by **kizno1** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 16:12

ill just have to wait and see what they are when they come i
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by **kizno1** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 18:45

i think i might go for a banjo or whiptail catfish insted now

by **Vandraco aka Bronzecat** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 18:46

What about those Golden Pygmy spiny catfish i saw yesterday? The name is in my 40g thread.

by **kizno1** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 18:52

there nice but i think ill go with the banjo or whiptails i like the look of them more.
do you know if your lfs sells upside down catfish?

by **Vandraco aka Bronzecat** Sat 14 Nov 2009 - 21:45

A couple of ours do yeh:)

I think TriMar had them in.

by **kizno1** Sun 15 Nov 2009 - 17:34

i got a few fish today i went to this other lfs a little futher away that i got recommended i got 2 upisdedown catfish a 2" albino male bn and a banjo catfish and i might got back in a few week for a

synodontis petricola they where 3" and only £3.99

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